Taylormade R7 Specs Drivers For Mac
JonI already have the TM R510TP with 9.5 degree loft and the Fujikura Speeder 757 Stiff shaft. This driver replaced a Ping G2 10 degree with a Prolaunch R felx shaft.
I have a swing speed of c. 104-109mph with a driver and to be honest the 24 handicap more illustrates a poor level of inconsistancy vs pure ability. Was an aggresive (shot level par golf to hole 14 or so and then blew it!!) 14 handicap for a couple of years when I was in my late teens, early twenties. Have just come back to the game after 10-12 years of social/business golf and am hoping to get what is a 'starting handicap' right down this year.As you can see I have a swiftish swing speed and hit a high, long ball. With the TM R510TP driver my best drives are knocking on 300 yards or so, average ones about 275 yeards.The R7 appeals because of the similar size 400cc head, the availabilty of the better Fujikura and Mitsubushi shafts, the adjustability of the weights and the TP head design.Hope that explains a bit more for you.cheers,Gareth.
Hi Gareth,I use a 9.5 R7 TP with a Fuji FIT-ON-SIX stiff shaft and am very pleased with its performance.The supplied weight kit ( 8 extra weights )affords hours of pleasure at the range trying out the numerous weight combinations.The Fuji Six is an ultra light shaft and doesn`t feel quite as `stiff` as some.The Fuji Speeder 757 is a comparitively heavy shaft.Mitsi LT is a lower launching shaft which is said to feel v.stiff.T.M. Have a fitting program which is quite accurate as long as you are honestwith your answers. Jon Grace if you visit any of the top shaft brand's websites you will find they each make a claim to being the best shaft on tour and without bing funny there isn't that many tour's to go around. So someone must be lying somewhere or manipulating the figures to show what they want to see.
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I would be very careful when believing these companies own hype and take it with a pinch of salt. Facts and figures such as shaft play for any give event can be misleading. We all know professional golfers change their equipment to suit the playing conditions. Just because the pro's mainly use 2 ball putter for X event instead of a blade normally only means the greens are very slow and not because they are the best putter on tour etc.
Tour vs TP retail/retail heads.The titanium used in the production of the Tour heads is generally NOT the same as the retail models. It is a very high grade titanium which is stronger and less prone to failure. The average player will never hit 10,000 balls with his driver like a Tour pro will, and thus, has no real need for this quality of materials. It is also more free of imperfections, and much more costly to tool because of the hardness. This grade is mildly heavier, but that is not of great concern because no Tour player plays a 46 inch driver.
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Just a few grams heavier, which is why you will always see the weight discrepency in Tour and retail heads, even raw and unweighted.The COG (centre of gravity) in the Tour heads is almost ALWAYS at a different point than the retail models, generating a mildly lower ball flight and spin rate that most good players desire. There also are NO weight bias' built into the head, unlike retail heads which 99% of the time, have a heel weight bias. This is pretty much true with all Tour drivers no matter what the companies might LIKE the consumer to believe. With a Tour driver, the COG is generally around 2-3mm higher in the Tour head, which results in about 1-1.5 degree of launch angle lower, and 300-600 rpm of spin rate lower than the retail heads. Of course, this can vary slightly.In Tour fairway woods and utilities, there will also be a mildly higher COG, and either neutral or fade bias built into the COG of the head. 99% of retail fairways and utilities have a heel/draw bias, and generally a more upright lie angle to help the 'average' player control their slice.Of course we all know the face angle is generally square or open on a Tour head, but this is an adjustment made by the Tour department or van, and is really not relevant to any production or internal differences, but is still a difference none the less.All heads are also tested and conform to the maximum allowable COR.
ChimpSome great information there on the shafts. I agree that it is obvious that the TM Diamana is not the same as the aftermarket version. Confusionly, on the TM website they refer to the shaft as LT-70 in one place and Diamana 83 in another. I suspect the TM version is a specially made version of the Diamana 53 shaft. Interestingly the swing speed recommendations for the Diamana on the Mitsi site are much lower than I would have expected. 92-105 mph driver ss rec'd as Diamana S.Nevertheless the TM version is probably still a good shaft, better than most manufacturer-branded shafts and suitable for players with a decent to good swing.
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ChimpI'd echo what Martin said here.very, very interesting post indeed - thanks. I already knew that the Tour TP kit is made to a different level of construction quality, especially with the heads. I would also agree that most amateur players would not be able to tell the difference between a retail TP or Tour TP product in a million years. However the difference between the Retail TP and 'normal' retail R5's and R7's are pretty large in my experience. So far I've had several sessions with the various R5's and the TP retail version, as well as the same tests with the R7's as well.For me the retail TP products sit better, have a nice square address and a much better shaft option than the (for me) dreadul TM MAS oem option. They feel very solid and perform at a very high. Consistant level.It's also interesting to note the differences between the Diamana shaft that TM quote and what Mitsubusihi quote.
However a grade 'b' Mitsubushi shaft is generally speaking going to be a better one than the std oem MAS shaft.How would you compare the Fujikura Speeder 757 S flex to the Diamana S flex fitted to the retail TP R5/R7?Gareth. BobbieI would agree with you that the Fuji Speeder 757 is a heavy shaft.which is why I like it.Previously I had a Ping G2 with the Prolaunch Blue in R flex and after a honeymoon period I just couldn't get on with it. For me it just felt too light and the flex, whilst stiff for a regular flex, just didn't work in relation to the 460cc head of the Ping.I then tried Martin's TM R510TP with the Fujikura 757 Speeder (R flex) and really liked it. Then I tried the club I have now and it's got the Speeder 757 S flex and it's just great. I want to keep it as my 'reserve' driver however and only the other TM TP (retail or maybe Tour) products interest me in the market now.A TM fitting session might be the answer as well.I'll look into that-thanks.
Jon, I tried to hit them both at the 'rained off' day the other week in Hampshire.Please note that this is only my opinion. But I could not hit them, with varying shaft / loft options. I play off 6 and like to hit the ball. The clubs look nice, but that doesn't mean jack when you haven't got a clue where the ball is going. You have got to try them for yourself to see.
I don't want to influence you - all I am saying is that they aren't for me.P.S. I have a Titlest 975J that I love with a Fuji Vista tour 70 X flex in that I love, and also an SMT Spectrum with a Graffaloy Prolite 35 X flex in.
In other words massive differences in shaft flex and cost. But the complete package in both cases works.